Curse

Free Runner · Aug 06, 2009, 02:24 PM // 14:24

I'm not going to base all of the gods structures on one gods realm. Grenths Underworld differs greatly in looks to Balthazars Fissure of Woe. Plus theres nothing to say they are limited to one look on everything they make. And i was listing the important races there (and by important i mean the ones who took more of an active part in Eye of the North rather than being cannon fodder) - i would be here all day if i listed every race that didnt care about the Eye

Konig Des Todes · Aug 06, 2009, 02:35 PM // 14:35

I wasn't fully clear on the "god structure" comment - that and I kind of skipped the second part I meant to put in. =x

I was actually meaning more of the HoH (i.e., golden) structures being more of "Gods' structures" - and with those stone structures being more "archaic" Rift structures, or structures preferred by Grenth himself, while those we see more common in the Fissure (the two towers and the forge) would be structures preferred by Balthazar.

For the gold structures, we see that in the Hall of Heroes (and areas just out of it, which include a shrine (or temple?) to Grenth and one to Balthazat), and we see that inside the Mesa as well - which proves it's not solely in the Rift (though the Mesa one lacks a grandiose that the Hall of Heroes has, but that's to be expected, I'd say *by grandiose, I mean it is much more plain, those "angel" statues with stain-glassed wings, I believe, are not there for instance*) - which means it could be the generic "god structures."

All three structures are nothing like either of the two temples we see, or the Eye of the North. This makes me highly doubt any of those three are god-made, or commissioned.

And you should only list cultured races that reside or go near the Eye. :P

draxynnic · Aug 07, 2009, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Except the Centaurs do launch a pretty serious attack on the Eye. Could just be because there were humans there to attack, but it's not impossible that they know something.

Regarding the angel structures... I'm willing to bet they're from Dwayna's influence. Especially given the Vabbian legend about the harpies...

Konig Des Todes · Aug 07, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Regarding Dwayna's influence on angels. People always forget: Melandru has angelic wings (on her statue) as well! *oh my, a generation of gods were angels! Only two left

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draxynnic · Aug 07, 2009, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I didn't forget (in fact, I think I was the one who originally proposed the theory that this was significant - certainly one of the early contributors), and considered mentioning it. However, while Melandru has wings as well, of the two Dwayna seems much more likely to have winged servants.

Konig Des Todes · Aug 07, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Actually, what I was more or less getting at is the possibility of a "past generation" of gods were all angelic beings. And those statues could be based off of a race instead of the gods or Dwayna's followers specifically.

But now we're going off topic. Again.

Mister_Smiley · Aug 08, 2009, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Its possible that it is a former god that had build the eye of the north, maybe a god before Abaddon, since we know from the Apostate quest, he said that there where Gods before Abaddon, its also possible that all the gods are not eternal gods and could be killed.

Free Runner · Aug 08, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Yes it could be a former god. We only know of two former gods at the moment - Dhumm and the unknown god that came before Abaddon. Like what as been discussed countless times, the other gods could have predecessors. But that would still come under the gods building it.

draxynnic · Aug 09, 2009, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Actually, what I was more or less getting at is the possibility of a "past generation" of gods were all angelic beings. And those statues could be based off of a race instead of the gods or Dwayna's followers specifically.

But now we're going off topic. Again.

True. However, this could be because that was the natural shape for a god of that generation, or it could be that there was a mortal race taking that shape. Either way, though, if we ever interact with an angelic form apart from the Avatar of Dwayna, I expect (especially given the harpy legend) it'll turn out to be a denizen of Dwayna's domain...

...which could turn out to be non-divine (or at least less divine) members of the race Dwayna and Melandru are/were members of.

Winnies Bro · Aug 18, 2009, 10:10 AM // 10:10

I have an idea!

People have said that the top of the eye of the north appears to have fallen off or been destroyed. Yes, that is very possibly.

But what if instead of it being destroyed, it was instead not finished. Prehaps the builders left in a hurry before it was finished, they may have left because of that dragon like creature atop that ice column forced them to leave or scared them off.

It could also explain why there is nothing inside the eye of the north, they had to leave...

I remember reading somewhere that the hall of monuments was to do with a long dead hero(i think it was the official wiki), so prehaps they "made" the hall of monuments first, making the scrying pool, putting up the tapestries(in lore sense, the tapestries were there before the ebon vanguard came along, in game sense, the players put them up) that sort of thing because the unknown hero was much too important for his hall to be left to the end to be made.

So the HoM was finished but before they could finish the tower and put things inside it they had to leave...

All i can think off now will post more later!

Free Runner · Aug 18, 2009, 10:47 AM // 10:47

The Hall of Monuments is to do with a long dead hero but the hero is our character. The thing you read was from the perspective of GW2.

As for the broken top, strangely enough the "Master of the North" monument is a direct model of the Eye of the North yet it has an intact top. And from the looks of it theres nothing special there.

Neo Atomisk · Aug 18, 2009, 06:18 PM // 18:18

So WHY is the top broken? I believe I had a topic on that a while back. hopefully that will be answered eventually. And I'm praying for it not to be Lightning <_<

Winnies Bro · Aug 18, 2009, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

The Hall of Monuments is to do with a long dead hero but the hero is our character. The thing you read was from the perspective of GW2.

As for the broken top, strangely enough the "Master of the North" monument is a direct model of the Eye of the North yet it has an intact top. And from the looks of it theres nothing special there.

Hmmm, yes it does appear to be referring to our character.

I'm just looking at the master of the north thingy now on the wiki...

Yes, the eye of the north monument has an intact top... Interesting.

Neo Atomisk · Aug 18, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27

So WHY is the top broken? I believe I had a topic on that a while back. hopefully that will be answered eventually. And I'm praying for it not to be Lightning <_<

Operative 14 · Aug 18, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Has anyone ever seriously looked at the floating statue in the pool of water behind the titles monument and investigated it?

Gmr Leon · Aug 18, 2009, 10:14 PM // 22:14

I can't recall having ever met anyone who had the actual, entire statue, myself, so I can't say that I've had the chance. All I've had are screenshots posted to the wiki, and I haven't really seen anything spectacular, but I've also never taken the time to examine them thoroughly.

Free Runner · Aug 18, 2009, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I've looked at the statue but i cant really place it as anything. It just looks like some kind of angel with an helmet on to me.

Konig Des Todes · Aug 18, 2009, 11:46 PM // 23:46

It looks like a giant's coffin floating in that blue liquid to me...

The 8th · Aug 19, 2009, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

It looks like a giant's coffin floating in that blue liquid to me...

..or maybe a tomb for our hero. I've always wondered if it wasn't some sort of magic stasis...thing...for the character to "rest" in until it was time for him/her to wake up and save the world again.

Eliz Genevieve · Aug 19, 2009, 08:14 AM // 08:14

and we lay down on it as humans and guess what... 250 years later, ma body has decomposed into a charr! rawr!